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"Older Man" Scam

Women often receive warnings about protecting themselves at the mall and in dark parking lots, etc. This is the first warning I have seen for men. 

A 'heads up' for those men who may be regular customers at Home Depot, Hannafords or Wal-Mart. This one caught me totally by surprise. Over the last month I became a victim of a clever scam while out shopping. Simply going out to get supplies has turned out to be quite traumatic. Don't be naive enough to think it couldn't happen to you or your friends.  Here's how the scam works:


Two nice-looking, college-aged girls will come over to your car or truck as you are packing your purchases into your vehicle. They both start wiping your windshield with a rag and Windex, with their breasts almost falling out of their skimpy jackets. (It's impossible not to look). When you thank them and offer them a tip, they say 'No' but instead ask for a ride to McDonald's.

You agree and they climb into the vehicle. On the way, they start undressing. Then one of them starts crawling all over you, while the other one steals your wallet. 

I had my wallet stolen November 4th, 9th, 10th, twice on the 15th, 17th, 20th, 24th, & 29th. Also December 1st & 4th, twice on the 7th, and very likely again this upcoming weekend. 

So tell your friends to be careful. What a horrible way to take advantage of us older men. Warn your friends to be vigilant. 

Wal-Mart has wallets on sale for $2.99 each. I found even cheaper ones for $.99 at the dollar store and bought them out. 

So please, send this on to all the older men that you know and warn them to be on the lookout for this scam. (The best times are just before lunch and around 4:30 in the afternoon.


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Thanks for the warning

Obviously there is no defense against this dastardly attack. Best thing an old fellow can do is to order wallets wholesale in advance.



Try eBay.


The Jolly Wallies - I want to be scammed!

So for about a $30 dollar investment I can fill 10 wallets with fake ID, cards and cash and get my jolly wallies! It pays to be old!


Oh the Humanity

I'm glad to read you don't seem to be tramatized by the repeated violations to your person. In my estimation it could only have been worse for you if one of the girls had taken your keys and driven to McD's while you were tied up in the back with the other girl. See, it can always be worse. You are indeed fortunate. By the way has it happened at the Co-op? I shop there.


Really "Amusing" Story . . .

Really "Amusing" Story . . . . until your "girl" turns out to be (insert scary music here) Aileen Wuornos. Watch your backs boys.


Aileen Wuornos

Bring me up to date - who is she?


As an imaginary story

Of course, as an imaginary story created to be amusing, that's one thing. But poor Wuornos was quite the real thing. And, so were her victims.


Not all jokes are funny to all people

There is a very interesting last paragraph in the Weekend Comedy Series: Rita Rudner by cgrotke (Feb6) that reads:

"Typical WCS Disclaimer: Not all jokes are funny to all people. Almost every comedy legend featured here has told a joke that make me cringe, but being offensive is sometimes part of comedy. Also, some of these videos are old, and contain jokes that may have been funny years ago, but are no longer. If the prospect of hearing a potentially offensive or insulting joke gives you shivers, do not watch these."

Naturally Rosa' comment was meant to be tongue-in-cheek, as it were...in the spirit of it all...


Ah but was it a joke or a warning?

Ah but was it . . . . tongue in cheek. Just had a moment there reading this where I recollected being crawled all over as a young woman (girl) by a old guy (jerk) who mistakenly thought I was inviting the crawling because I wanted his wallet when all I did was ask for directions. You know, (like all young women (girls) who are just out to take advantage of those poor old guys (jerks). It wasn't all that funny at the time, back then Don't want to encourage these fellows too much, they might forget as old geezers are wont to do, that it was just a joke. And mistake those girls wandering about the parking lot lost for someone who might be after their wallets.

Oh perhaps they could accidentally run into Aileen Wournos and mistake her for a young girl out for a good time/wallet. They need to be forewarned. Just doing my civic duty. Just trying to help out. I'm just saying . . . .

Oh well, let's just put this down as one of those jokes that was considered funny years ago, but are no longer.

Now I'll take my tongue out of cheek and move on to more important things.



Wow. Seriously? I am floored and disgusted that someone would post this sexist misogynistic crap here (or anywhere for that matter). It's not a joke and it was never funny despite centuries of popular (read: male) opinion to the contrary.


Well said. I tend to dance

Well said. I tend to dance around the truth at times trying to be a helper. I think you just nailed it.


One "man's" (tongue-in-cheek) opinion

I know that tomaidh was not being misogynistic, in the least. The humor was well constructed. At first I wasn't sure where he was going but the repetition of the dates cracked me up.

It made me laugh out loud! That's more than I can say for either Rosa and HBL.

Whether HBL "nailed" anything, is one "man's" (tongue-in-cheek) opinion.


Whether tomaidh meant it to

Whether tomaidh meant it to be misogynistic or not is not the issue, the issue is whether the joke is a out of line or not. I doubt he intended it to be such but that alone is indicative of the problem. So while I think tomaidh saw it as harmless and funny, I also think HBL was right. I mean really Vidda and tomaidh too, c'mon, the photo alone wasn't clue enough that there might be a bit of a cringe factor involved here. Really?! Deep sigh.


...certainly not cringe-worthy

C'mon as well. I'm not trying to speak for Tom, but you and HBL make the assumption that the piece was misogynist and you throw the word at it like you are the definitive team. You are not. Just because you say it is misogynist doesn't make it so. It is indicative of your own views on, and does not cover all humanity's thinking. As I said, "It's one (wo)mans opinion, as we each have an "opinion" but yours is no better than mine.. Nothing more, and certainly not cringe-worthy. (I knew someone would come along and be a downer on this...)

As for the photo it is a pix of a beautiful, and yes, sexy woman. That's it. I'm not judgmental of her clothing or looks beyond that..


Deeper Sigh

Deeper Sigh


Sexual objectification

Some of the greatest love songs, and a good portion of rock and roll involves sexual objectification. As a central notion of the feminist counterculture, sexual objectification is in fact gender objectification, usually of women by men, but not always. Needless to say, much of modern lyrics and music would be a void without it.

Like many reactionaries, women, the chattel of our infamous Jukrislims, must struggle for respect and parity. Considering that women, not Jews or blacks, represent humanity's greatest holocaust, as the primitives say, 'god knows she earned the right.'

The unfortunate angle on all is this is the distortion of the lens used to see sex, sexy, whether humorous or not, as a hideous men's tool for hatred.

From an emotional standpoint, a 'deeper sigh' offers temporary relief. But what can you really offer that involves the useful critical thinking skills I know you to possess?


I didn't find this post

I didn't find this post particularly offensive or funny, for that matter. Of all the truly cringe worthy comments that are made about women in our society ,this doesn't even make the top 500. To me it wasn't nearly as offensive as a few posts that have appeared on this site where transgender people are repeatedly referred to as "it" or "he/she". I think tomaidh's 'joke' was probably meant to elicit a laugh or two and he probably knew that there would be a few people who would take offense at it. But,I don't believe you can call another human being "it" without meaning to be hurtful and mean. Big difference in my opinion. When those posts appeared I was shocked at how many people thought they were funny or "brilliant". Only two of us thought it was very offensive -not to mention incredibly ignorant. Vidda, you may remember the posts I'm referring to?



Kris, Although I did find this piece quite it funny, I can say I agree with your view on its lack of cringe-worthiness rating. I too think humor about bisexuals, transgender and a grouping of pansexual's is largely insensitive and misplaced. I have heard mention of the word polyamorous lately, which fits nicely in the pantheon of human's incredible taste for sexual and companion variety.
I don't recall the specific piece, but I remember that you and I reacted, rightly so, to their ignorance.


This is not about intention, it is about how it affects women

appealing to the author's intention here distracts from the main critique: that this joke and accompanying image feed a culture that actively threatens the material well being (and lives for that matter) of women. The author's intention doesn't necessarily matter. In fact, if the author's conscious intention was not to harm women, but just to be humorous, this even better illustrates the greater problem for which the author is no more responsible than most men. If misogyny was only produced by blatant intentional woman-hating, then it would be easy to identify and confront. But it is so engrained in our culture and social structure precisely because of its invisibility. Producing something that harms other people unknowingly is a common symptom of uninterrogated privilege and complicity in death-dealing ideologies.
If the author wants to make a joke, then I would challenge him to do so in a way that doesn't rely on stock tropes and cultural narratives that harm others.

As a male identified person who claims to be opposed to the harmful effects patriarchy has on women in our society, it is my responsibility to not rely on cultural narratives that harm others when making jokes or seeking approval. and also to identify such behavior when I see it in my community. This is misogyny. It hurts people. We can be better than this.


We haven’t even touched on misandry

There is no one on both sides of the Mississippi who is more antipatriarchal than I am, nor any guy who is more of a lifelong feminist than me.

My concerns about the overreaction of the misogyny charge are much broader than the author’s ‘intention.’

If you’re right about this humorous piece and the image, then we must stop all portrayals of women in all pageants, lyrics, moviemaking, fashion outlets, merchandizing and just about everything that portrays women.

At some point, this layer upon layer of oversensitivity can do more harm, or be counterproductive itself than any perceived good to protect women at large.

And, we haven’t even touched on misandry…at least not yet, awaiting for perhaps some offended men being treated as sexual objectification to speak up.


Someone mark this thread

I'm agreeing with Vidda...


duped to step in the poop

The main mis this is...is misappropriation.

If you plant fertilizer, don't expect roses.


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