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Chemtrails: What Are They Spraying and Why? Who Are They?


I am looking for a local group which has found a way to fight chemtrails. I want to write letters but do not want to re invent the wheel. Would like to band with other people and do something. Meanwhile, I found this international group and their chemtrail documentary.

https://vimeo.com/16219493

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Evil people hellbent on destroying themselves

The controversy and conspiracy theory you address here dates back to the mid-1990s. It’s a little late, nearly a quarter of century later, to band with other people to “fight” chemtrails. Once chemtrails has been fought and won, what’s next?

Twenty-five years is a long time to have chemicals raindown from the sky by evil forces bent on doing something terrible to people, our cousin animals, our land, air and water tables.

When you find out how the evil people who are releasing these chemicals personally protect themselves and any people they might care about from harm, and, protect their food and water supply from contamination, that could be useful information. Usually evil people are not hellbent on destroying themselves, just you and the rest of us.

 
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chem?

Is it possible that what you're calling chemtrails are just water vapour?

 
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Yes. I think so, too.

jeddak: Is it possible that what you're calling chemtrails are just water vapour?

Yes. I think so, too. (Except for intended cloud-seeding and other programs authorized by the government.)

I mistakenly helped to devolve the comments into a who are behind them thread as a way to showing the ridiculousness of so-called chemtrail perpetrators who harm themselves and everyone else with releasing (indiscriminately) alleged chemicals from the sky.

So, in my last comment here http://ibrattleboro.com/sections/questions-answers/chemtrails-what-are-t... I felt I need to clarify with this disclosure:
[Disclosure: I do not believe in chemtrails, nor chemtrail conspiracies.]

 
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Who are they?

"They" are numerous: governments, private enterprises, researchers, others.
And the reasons they do it are as varied as the entities themselves.
For instance, our government created monsoons in Viet Nam under the mistaken impression that the "Ho Chi Minh Trail was an actual road.
Ski Areas in the West have created snowstorms.
Municipalities have seeded clouds in order to fight droughts.
Not all Chemtrails are evil.

So, who is doing it now?
I haven't a clue.
However, photographs and even videos surface on the web depicting trails that vary considerably from commonly seen contrails.
Rarely is any kind of scientifically credible evidence provided that explain why or how they differ.

Cloud seeding to produce rain has been going on since 1946. Look it up on Wikipedia.

You're not likely to find a local group. As soon as you mention "Chemtrails", local skeptics emerge from their holes and accuse you of being a "Conspiracy Theorist".

 
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But, it is not okay to fail to give...

tomaidh: “"They" are numerous: governments, private enterprises, researchers, others.””

Logically, “chemtrails” don’t grow on trees. The only way you can nefariously release “chemtrails,” that high in the sky, is to put them into a plane.

Planes down grow on trees, either. Not knowing the name of just one person who owns and/or operates the planes – after all these 25 years, is really a big deficit.

It’s okay to name "numerous" groups, organizations, individuals, types, etc., etc.

But, it is not okay to fail to give even one name of just one person who is a “Chemtrail Perpetrator."

If these people are killing us I want their damn names!

 
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Read my post

If you read my post, you will notice that I didn't say anything about killing anybody. I talked about weather modification using substances dropped by airplanes. And there is nothing "nefarious" about it.

You're the one who brought up "evil Forces" and "Killing us".

If you want a "damn name", here's one:Vincent Schaefer.

 
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I agree with you, to a point.

From reading your comments from the past, I may have conflated you with DWard and others who have written about the dangers of chemtrails and who identify chemtrails as part of a conspiracy theory package -the intent being to poison and even kill humans.

It is true in previous chemtrail discussions on iBrattleboro your comments veer to your broad skepticism about government programs related to cloud seeding and other weather modifications when you say "I don't care if they call it "Chemtrails",weather modification or anything else":

(tomaidh extracts) ““I do not believe it's a good idea for our government to be playing games with the atmosphere for any reason (Which they are demonstratively doing). I don't care if they call it "Chemtrails",weather modification or anything else. When the gov't does something like this, you can bet it's NOT to benefit the 99%. Somewhere along the line, Corporations are pocketing big bucks. A grand history of releasing stuff into the atmosphere as part of scientific research exists. In the early 1960s our U.S. military dumped 350,000 small copper needles into the ionosphere attempting to create a ‘telecommunications shield.’ These chemical releases are not necessarily chemtrails, but they show our military’s extensive atmospheric chemical release activities.
Source: http://www.hangthebankers.com/the-haarp-and-chemtrails-connection/
So-called “Chemtrails” may be pure water, as some claim. They may be something else. The verdict isn’t in. Cloud seeding has been the focus of many theories based on the belief that governments manipulate the weather in order to control anything from global warming, populations, and military weapons testing, to public health, and flooding. We know our government would never do anything like that! But if they did, might the visible results of such attempts be interpreted by some as "Chemtrails"?) However, photographs and even videos surface on the web depicting trails that vary considerably from commonly seen contrails. Rarely is any kind of scientifically credible evidence provided that explain why or how they differ.””

 
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Kamikaze Mission

Did it ever occur to anyone that chemtrail perpetrators are kamikaze? Not only do they just kill us but they also kill themselves. Wholesale suicide-murder attacks, though, to gain what?

These people, the conspiracy theorists, who maintain claims that are certainly mystical, nebulous, vague, obtuse..., they may as well be seen as conspiratorial.

[Disclosure: I do not believe in chemtrails, nor chemtrail conspiracies.]

 

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