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War With Russia?


When it looked like a Hillary coronation, I feared that the chances of a war with Russia would increase.  After all, she and the media had been demonizing Putin for years.  http://theduran.com/heres-your-putin-did-it-survival-guide/

With Trump, I can relax (…a little – but he’s still too unstable to be anywhere near the nuke button).

He’s not going to start a conflict with Russia.

China’s a maybe, tho.

More likely, he will lob a nuke at Supreme Leader Kim Jong-un, overlooking the fact that the Democratic People's Republic of Korea has a mutual defense treaty with the People's Republic of China.

Pop goes the weasel.

For a different perspective, you can watch this 3 minute video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2sdSTmrDbc

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Oceania

I'll bite. : )

Do you think the "Trump folks have ties to Russia" is an extension of that?

That is, do you think the desire for a Cold War with Russia by Clinton (and probably half the intelligence/military folks) was seen as threatened by Trump's election and talk of getting along with Putin?

Schumer said“Let me tell you, you take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you.”

Is this one of those ways?

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In my world, the cold war ended long ago. Fear of Russia was replaced with fear of terrorists. Now that's fading and we're supposed to fear Russia again. Or maybe both. It's a 20 year Orwellian cycle, and rather unproductive for the vast majority of us. I'm sure it makes a few people quite wealthy.

I'm personally more concerned about climate change, a certainty, rather than existential angst over possible nuclear annihilation. But hey, that's me. : )

 
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Martenson

Here’s a good analysis from Chris Martenson’s Weekly Peak Prosperity Newsletter-
http://www.24hgold.com/english/news-gold-silver-do-we-really-want-a-war-...

 
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Most urgent problem US will confront - North Korea

(NYTimes) By the time Mr. Obama took office in January 2009, the North haddeployed hundreds of short- and medium-range missiles that used Russian designs, and had made billions of dollars selling its Scud missiles to Egypt, Libya, Pakistan, Syria, the United Arab Emirates and Yemen. But it aspired to a new generation of missiles that could fire warheads over much longer distances.

In secret cables written in the first year of the Obama administration, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton laid out the emerging threat. Among the most alarming released by WikiLeaks, the cables described a new path the North was taking to reach its long-range goal, based on a missile designed by the Soviets decades ago for their submarines that carried thermonuclear warheads.

It was called the R-27. Unlike the North’s lumbering, older rockets and missiles, these would be small enough to hide in caves and move into position by truck. The advantage was clear: This missile would be far harder for the United States to find and destroy.

“North Korea’s next goal may be to develop a mobile ICBM that would be capable of threatening targets around the world,” said an October 2009 cable marked “Secret” and signed by Mrs. Clinton.

The next year, one of the new missiles showed up in a North Korean military parade, just as the intelligence reports had warned.

In two meetings of Mr. Trump’s national security deputies in the Situation Room, the most recent on Tuesday, all those options were discussed, along with the possibility of reintroducing nuclear weapons to South Korea as a dramatic warning. Administration officials say those issues will soon go to Mr. Trump and his top national security aides.

The decision to intensify the cyber and electronic strikes, in early 2014, came after Mr. Obama concluded that the $300 billion spentsince the Eisenhower era on traditional antimissile systems, often compared to hitting “a bullet with a bullet,” had failed the core purpose of protecting the continental United States. Flight tests of interceptors based in Alaska and California had an overall failure rate of 56 percent, under near-perfect conditions. Privately, many experts warned the system would fare worse in real combat.

An examination of the Pentagon’s disruption effort, based on interviews with officials of the Obama and Trump administrations as well as a review of extensive but obscure public records, found that the United States still does not have the ability to effectively counter the North Korean nuclear and missile programs. Those threats are far more resilient than many experts thought, The New York Times’s reporting found, and pose such a danger that Mr. Obama, as he left office, warned President Trump they were likely to be the most urgent problem he would confront.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/04/world/asia/north-korea-missile-progra...

 

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